In Stuffed by Eric Walters, Ian informs the reader that he was suspended for two days for "Disrespectful Conduct" towards a teacher. His father said that they would have fought the suspension but did not because Ian swore at the teacher and called him an idiot. So, let's imagine that his parents had fought the suspension but decided that there still would have needed to be some sort of consequence for his actions that did not require him to miss any instructional time. During our discussion we talked about whether or not suspensions were effective at changing the behaviour of the student being punished. Explain what you believe would be an appropriate and more effective alternative to suspension? *Consider whether or not your alternative would have the desired effect in rehabilitating a student. Remember to explain *clearly* why you feel that this consequence is more effective than suspension.
REMEMBER TO DISCUSS RESPECTFULLY. Curb your logorrhea(incessant or compulsive talkativeness)!
In my opinion at home suspension is more of a reward than a punishment depending on how strict the parents are. In the book Ian's parents sound like they agreed with him, but still had to act profesionally because he had sworn at the teacher. If they had fought the suspension, a more suitable punishment could be taking away his technology privileges, and making him write an apology letter to the teacher.
I think is punishment should be to apologize in front of the class because he insulted the teacher in front of the class or he gets one thing (or luxury ex: phone) taking away and can not do (or use) that for 2 days
I think that the parents should put themself in the teachers shoes meaning that if your child were to call you and "IDIOT" what would his/her consequence/punishment be. If I were the parent I would take there facilities away or even if I was the teachers instead of giving them an award of not coming to school or doing work that won't be getting marked maybe take away there privilege of technologies or maybe even signing them out of extra circular activities ex;sports, clubs. Maybe there privilege of eating with classmates during lunch time. Because once a child is in a out of school suspension they still have access to there technologie ex; Instagram, Snapchat. They will probably apologize but that doesn't mean there taking action of there work so I believe the biggest punishment you can ever give to kids in the 21st century are facilities=TECHNOLOGY. And there can be a consequence to everything but they don't know what the reality is meaning If you break a glass at your house instead of your mom not asking you to clean up or do something behalf she takes you out for ice cream. Then you won't have a fear of doing something your bit suppose to like breaking things around the house.
Take 20% off his finale marke becauce that would really make him regret what he did with out missing any classe time
First of all, for some students suspensions are more rewards. Sometimes parents don't care or maybe they have work. Other parents may just take away electonics and the students end up doing nothing for the whole while missing their education. Other students may just read a book for the whole day, with no physical exercise or fresh air in which school has to offer. But punishments on the other hand, are sometimes always more effective than a regular suspension because the students actually feel they did something wrong and it has really affected them in some shape or form. An appropriate and more effective alternative than a suspension in my opinion would be to clean classrooms every day for 1 week instead of break time. This way he gets his exercise but also does something useful. I would also make him write what he did wrong and what not to do next time. I think these two punishments will have a very good effect because for a kid all he wants to is play and have fun but cleaning classrooms would not be his type of fun. Another thing is by writing what he did wrong and what not to do next time will probably make him realise that what he did was terribly rude.
I strongly believe that suspending him wasn't the right thing to do as it was more of a reward then a punishment, as he was technically missing class time and likely having more of a break from school. I believe that he should've had to minimize the "special privileges" at school such as technology use and sitting with classmates at lunch for about a month. That way he can understand that disrespecting a teacher is not appropriate at all. And he should help out the garbage crew for about 2-3 weeks. Another consequence should be that the law teacher should have the right to assign him an extra assignment or extra homework as another way to receive the message to never disrespect a teacher. As teachers go through a lot everyday to prepare their day and classes.
Students should be "punished", for lack of a better term, by being given community service time. The student's age (Kindergarten-high school) would determine which type of service (ex. Kindergarten students-pick up litter/high schoolers- help set up and clean up community events such as the Y Dances). This consequence would be done during a recess time, free time during class, or after school. Community work teaches students responsibility/collaboration. Finally, community work is more effective than pulling children out of school, and certainly less destructive to learning habits than pulling them out of classes and less dehumanizing than alienating a student in an un-social and new "learning" (if we can even call it that) environment.
Suspensions are effective for some people, if you don't like being home alone then it would be a punishment but most of the time suspensions could act as a reward. Instead of having one punishment fit all, you should have an array of punishments to best fit the offender. Ex. If the offender doesn't like writing then you make you make most of the work written work for them.
Personally, I think that he shouldn't be punished at all for simply pointing out a mistake a teacher made (no matter how major it was). As for the swearing... I think that simply talking to the principal and your parents, apologizing to Mr. Philips, and just generally making sure it won't happen again would be enough. Maybe even taking away special privileges like going on trips would teach him not to disrespect an adult. Swearing isn't a good thing and I'm not encouraging it in any way, but I think people our age could be mature enough to let it pass.
An appropriate and more effective alternative than suspension can be in many other ways way different, so that way you won't have to take time out of the students after/before school time, or the teachers. For example, at recess the student will stay in to make up for it. But what if your homeroom teacher is busy? You can easily find another staff member who is in need of help of organizing or cleaning the classroom. Sometimes even if there's a homework club, the students will be supervised and at the same time be required to be assigned some worksheets. This punishment comes with embarrassment, as well as their free time outside being taken away from them for the week/day(duration of the consequence depending on the punishment).Little things can be consequences as well, such as not having the privilege to sit with friends or listen to music. I always find that those little punishments and privileges being taken away from me will either embarrass me or help me learn to not do my mistake again because I'm missing out on things that i'd want to be doing. These little consequences take awhile to learn from, so a week without privileges is a good duration as for a punishment like Ian's.
Maybe make them doing something they may not enjoy. For example if you told me that for every thing that I did wrong I would have to draw something for the english and français notebook, that would be all you have to say because I HATE art.
I think instead of being suspended they should have made Ian do community work on the weekends when they have free time, or make Ian sit at the office at nutrition break and stay with the teacher on duty outside so Ian still gets to go outside, or make Ian help with the janitors after school Ian has nothing going on that night, so he doesn't have to miss class time but he still gets a punishment.
I think that Ian should still have a punishment but not as big of a punishment as he was given. I think Ian should have to talk with his teacher about why he did that and maybe instead of suspension he will have a punishment of not being able to sit with his friends at break when everyone else is sitting with a friend. For a consequence that might happen is that the teacher won't really respect him.
I feel that the student should get most (if not all) of their privileges taken away, for example, Not getting to use technology in class, no extensions on due dates, etc. I feel this is a good course of action because, it'll teach the student not to do wrong again, and how it affects their life as a student.
I think one of the consequences should be that he has to do extra work at home, after school and also he would have to make it up to the teacher by maybe helping out around the class by cleaning and organizing it during his free time, another consequence is that made he would have to join more clubs such as math club, also maybe have to stay in for homework clubs and take part in more school sports plus activities!
-forfeiting extraclassroom activity privileges
-having nutrition breaks spent in the school office rather than with classmates
-additional homework/time at home used educationally
-limited technology use
-a written apologie to the teacher
-extra chores at home/less after-school activities
During school, no troubling schooling, saves parents from much need to discipline their child when busy, working, etc. In any case, these suggestions are what could meet the standards of a suitable substitute for a suspension.
I think that a punishment other than suspension should be helping the janitor. It would be easier for the janitor if a student who is being punished cleans up instead of the janitor doing it. So the student who is being punished should clean his class. That way he's still in class and he can still hear everything the teacher says, but he's also in the middle of his punishment, which is cleaning the class. By cleaning the class, the student could be maybe organizing book shelves or sweeping the floor, or wiping dust off of every countertop.
i think that suspension is more of an enjoyment to the kid then a punishment because they can do whatever they want if their parents don't care so i think that he shouldn't be able to use his technology as much as the other kids and not be able to play so of the school sports or make him do a little bit more work so he doesn't miss out on any classes
In my point of view suspensions are a decent form of punishment but it varies with every student, in some cases the student takes it as a mini vacation/award more than anything else because they get to stay away from school and away from the problem but there are other students with whom this punishment would work very well with considering that they would stress over missing school and having loads of homework. In this case I can easily observed that suspension wasn't really necessary considering the other options such as doing handiwork around the school during breaks as and some examples of that are cleaning gum off of desks , helping the teacher with work around the class and or helping put away GYM supplies etc. also another reasonable punishment could have been detention during breaks and or after school but even then I feel like a suspension was a total waste with this student since afterwards he still did not feel any form of guilt or accountable for his actions(also personally I feel that a suspension was way too big of a punishment for this act considering all the other possibilities)
The clear answer to the question is a traditional form of punishment from back in the 20th century...wash his mouth out with soap. He doesn't have to miss class, he still is learning and- okay. I'm clearly joking. However I still do have an answer. I'm not completely sure with this and there are a few flaws however I'm sure to think of a solution soon if you have any problems. Because Ian didn't do anything too bad there could be some sort of club during the lunch time. It would sort of be character building and to help with negative energy. Kinda like therapy but not really. They would teach you how to better handle yourself, work with others etc. A couple of ways this could work is that it's during the eating part, therefore they can still go outside and get some fresh air. As well as they can also eat during the "club". This could be done by using a teacher such as the school councillor or anyone who volunteers. As well as it's optional if any other students from the school want to go. Say for example person 1, didn't get in trouble however they just want to work on character building and cooperation. But person 2 might've done something 'wrong' and therefore are required to go. Hope this works and if there are any problems with it message me back.
I think instead of getting suspended, he should stay in the class and continue working but he can work alone and he can't talk or sit with friends, and he loses all the privileges (ex, puma pride tickets, listening to music) and for recess instead of hanging out with his friends, he could stay on the wall, and walk around a little bit if he wants. He should repent on what he did, but I think there are different ways to repent depending on the person, but all of them should get their privileges taken away at least.
Maybe since most people seem to care more about punishments at their home because it involves their parents they would be at their house banned from electronics (if theirs parents are okay with it) and they could do work on the weekend and write a letter writing how they got suspended, why they did it and what they can do from preventing it by happening again. They would have to hand their work or letter in to their teacher by Monday and if they didn't finish they would have to do the same thing the next weekend.
I would give the student a set amount of work for a set amount of time depending on how bad of a thing they did. They MUST complete (may have some exceptions exe- must attend a family emergency. Also they must tell you before hand so you can work something out) if they get it wrong it's ok but if they don't complete it you could start to deduct grades if done repetitive. I think this would work because it makes them do more school work and learn more but it's still a punishment because it's something particularly everyone hates doing. Also if they attempt to skip it of like I said before an even worse punishment.
This alternative has the desired effect in rehabilitating a student: brief after school parent-teacher conferences. During the conference, the parent(s) and teacher can think of an appropriate at-home punishment for the student. The student can serve their punishment and not miss class time. If an in-person conference is not possible, it can be done over the phone or email.
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